Comments on: Lila Rose, anti-abortionist, tries to steal Malala Yousafzai's activist cred https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/ ... Because I don't watch enough hockey, drink enough beer, or eat enough bacon. Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:33:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: anonymous too https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26928 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 07:33:30 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26928 Maybe it says more about the Nobel committee than it does about muslims and science.

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By: otrame https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26927 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:11:14 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26927 @colnago80 reminds me of a certain person whose name starts with K and who has shown himself to be terribly impressed with the alumna of his high school (in New York), especially himself. I wonder……

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By: Tecolata https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26926 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 20:15:07 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26926 Why is it that a post about a young woman gets hijacked into a bunch of people trying to outmacho each other?

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By: John Horstman https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26925 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 19:21:24 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26925 @colnago80: And the presupposition that number of Nobel Prizes in any way functions as an accurate metric of something other than number of Nobel Prizes is supported by what, exactly? Are there no bounds to what people will try to essentialize?

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By: Jason Thibeault https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26924 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:19:12 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26924 Yeah, no kiddin’, right? Likely the same reason Harris thought racial profiling at airports was a good thing — he didn’t grok that the statistics for terrorism don’t track at all with what he was suggesting.

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By: Anthony K https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26923 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:17:02 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26923

Nobel prizes actually track staggeringly well with the wealth of the country the recipients did their work in — the more wealthy, the more likely the country is to have a decent scientific research prioritization.

They even more strongly track with having the appearance of a owning a dick. Like, to the tune of ~20:1 men over women. Only a fool who misunderstands science would assume unadjusted crude rates from such a source could be used to infer anything about the base populations. Like, one would almost have to be purposely and maliciously ignorant of basic statistics and inference to not immediate see this.

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By: Anthony K https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26922 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:04:58 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26922

OK, let’s talk statistics.

Did I ask you to talk statistics? No, I told you to take a fucking class in statistics because you’re a fucking know-nothing about statistics. If you knew anything about statistics, you wouldn’t have rattled off some data and called those statistics. You’d have recognised that there’s a lot more to drawing conclusions than assuming correlation between two variables. So don’t “talk statistics”. It just cements the fact that you’re an idiot.

Now, why don’t you take my advice and learn something about experimental design, controls, and confounding variables before you open your fetid piehole again, you goddamn dipshit.

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By: Jason Thibeault https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26921 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:29:13 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26921 When the Arabic world was the scientific nexus for civilization a thousand years ago, they gave us a lot of Nobel-worthy scientific breakthroughs, none of which happened when the Nobel program existed. Ultimately, the Nobel program is a product of its time. It is a selection of the best science coming from the wealthiest nations. That Europe is starting to figure into it again, and Japan, is also evocative of that fact.

This whole argument feels to me like the argument about IQ — where it’s a product of how many Western conventions you know, and thus a non-Western audience (like African bushmen) would be rated very low because they aren’t Western, and thus treated as though they’re unintelligent by racists who don’t realize IQ only measures IQ, not intelligence.

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By: Jason Thibeault https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26920 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:25:36 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26920 Nobel prizes actually track staggeringly well with the wealth of the country the recipients did their work in — the more wealthy, the more likely the country is to have a decent scientific research prioritization. The Middle East is, honestly, not all that wealthy, save for Dubai. And even that isn’t all that interested in science at the moment, as far as I can see, so much as splashing around money trying to make it look like a shining jewel city to compete with the West.

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By: colnago80 https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2013/10/22/lila-rose-anti-abortionist-tries-to-steal-malala-yousafzais-activist-cred/comment-page-1/#comment-26919 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:11:39 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=13404#comment-26919 Re Anthony K @ #17

OK, let’s talk statistics. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and 15 million Jews. Two Muslims have won Nobel Prizes in the sciences. I would be willing to bet that a very conservative estimate of the number of Jews who have won Nobel Prizes in the sciences is 50 (I can name 20 in physics alone off the top of my head, including 3 who I have taken courses from: Emilio Segre, Steven Weinberg, and Julian Schwinger). Now the implication in Karmacat’s comment is that there are a number of Muslims who should have been awarded the prize but, for whatever reason did not. So far I note that he/she has failed to name as many as 10.

Re Raging Bee @ #20

Actually, I look forward to a Brayton post involving Libertarians, knowing that the Fairfax flipper will be along with a nasty comment. He’s entirely predictable in that regard.

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