Comments on: A new atheism https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/ ... Because I don't watch enough hockey, drink enough beer, or eat enough bacon. Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:27:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: Atheism+ … can this be the third wave? https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-2/#comment-18978 Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:27:18 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18978 […] Jason Thibeault also writes here – A new atheism […]

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By: Αθεΐα+ (⅝ x) 28 ημέρες μετά « On the way to Ithaca https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-2/#comment-18977 Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:33:52 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18977 […] A New Atheism […]

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By: Tony •King of the Hellmouth• https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-2/#comment-18976 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:30:44 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18976 epitome:

The movement comes off as self-righteous and unapologetically pompous with a “with me or against me” mentality.

In what ways does the atheist movement display this mentality?

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By: epitome https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18975 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:02:10 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18975 I must respectfully disagree with the notion that the reason why Atheism+ and freethougblogs has incurred such ire is because they bravely challenged the status-quo.

I’m going to be blatant here as an outsider who doesn’t oppose the movement’s liberal progressive views.

The movement comes off as self-righteous and unapologetically pompous with a “with me or against me” mentality.

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I am very interested if indeed this will gain momentum and become a “new wave” as many here seem to expect, or it will just be another fringe splinter group like the tea-party to the republicans.

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By: Corvus illustris https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18974 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:48:47 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18974 Andre Esteves says

Humanism has good connections on anglosaxon countries…
In southern Europe you keep on hearing catholic priests on saying they are humanists, that they represent “the true centrality of the human being in life” meaning we are god’s special pet…

It’s surprising that you see the good connections as confined to anglosaxon countries; it resonates with Renaissance Humanism (which needs no introduction). The southern-European RC clergy using the term the way AE illustrates seems to me to be a typical RC false-flag operation; the real humanists accumulated a large number of condemnations for heresy–for their content if not by name, even unto the time of Pius X.

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By: A+, Plus Drool-Worthy Geology, AW #49 Info, and Other Bits | En Tequila Es Verdad https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18973 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:28:32 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18973 […] A new atheism […]

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By: LykeX https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18972 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:25:19 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18972 @35

You’re just making stuff up, which doesn’t surprise me

No. What happened here was that you made a very vague statement (which, I note, you didn’t bother to clarify in your follow-up), hinting at a disagreement with the regulars here and The twelfth vote speculated about what you might mean.
It was an assumption, sure, but not an unfounded one, given the topic of this thread and the kind of comments that usually pop up in threads of this kind.

Take a moment to consider that the problem here might not be that people are “making stuff up”, but rather that you’re being very vague in your communication.

Instead of getting testy, clarify. People have asked you what you meant. Take the chance to make it clear. What social issues is it that are being “strongly panned” by Ftb? Why do you think that mixing atheism and social awareness harms both?

To get more specific, do you have a problem with the idea that an atheist organization might also concern itself with certain social issues? If so, why?

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By: Rieux https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18971 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:22:12 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18971 Felix @44:

I’m pretty sure that #38, One Thousand Needles, *designed* that proposed logo.

Yes, I know. Thus the high-larious mock horror—?!?.

(This is when my aversion to smileys comes back to bite me in the derriere.)

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By: lordshipmayhem https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18970 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:02:25 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18970 I must be ahead of the curve on this “new wave of atheism” thing.

I’m an atheist – check. I don’t believe in invisible creatures with supernatural powers, regardless of whether they’ve got ultimate power or minimal wattage, or any level of supernatural power in between.

I’m against harassing my fellow beings – check. I’ve worked in offices for over 30 years, and in all that time it’s the rare (and small) office that didn’t have a written anti-harassment policy. These policies all covered not just sexual harassment, but also racial harassment and any other kind anyone could think of. Those policies made a great deal of sense to anyone with even the slightest iota of empathy. They made sense to anyone with a heartfelt desire to keep one’s ass out of civil court for tort actions, to say nothing of criminal court for criminal harassment charges.

And by extension those anti-harassment policies covered not just the people you worked with, but the firm’s clients and the firm’s suppliers.

The whole thing just made sense.

So you don’t make passes at people who you work with, and you don’t make passes at clients or clients’ agents or staff, and you don’t make passes at vendors or vendors’ agents or staff. Being at a convention, be it for business or pleasure, is just like being at an office – you don’t make passes at presenters or convention staff. They’ve got more important things to do.

The people manning the booths in the vendors’ hall? Yes, they’re called “booth bunnies”, but they’re being paid to be there to make sales, and have to be there. They’ve got better things to do than submit to your lame attempts at making passes.

This is “business ethics 101”. It’s also How To Be Grown Up. It saddens me that some of us supposed adults have never learnt this lesson.

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By: FelixBC https://the-orbit.net/lousycanuck/2012/08/19/a-new-atheism/comment-page-1/#comment-18969 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:54:25 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/?p=10748#comment-18969 I’m pretty sure that #38, One Thousand Needles, *designed* that proposed logo. Check Jen McCreight’s latest post.

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