The Patheos Atheist Channel is Not the Enemy

In the wake of Ed Brayton leaving Freethought Blogs for the Patheos Atheist channel, some people are apparently targeting the entire channel as terrible. This is both unnecessary and inaccurate. Yes, there are some jerks at Patheos Atheist. There are also excellent atheist bloggers there. Many of them are serious social justice advocates. Excellent bloggers at Patheos Atheist include (please note that this is not ane exhaustive list):

Sincere Kirabo, Notes from an Apostate
Alix Jules, The Graffiti Wall
Adam Lee, Daylight Atheism
James Croft, Temple of the Future
Libby Anne, Love Joy Feminism
Kylie Sturgess, Token Skeptic

And of course, Ed Brayton, Dispatches from the Culture Wars.

This isn’t war, people. It’s not even a football rivalry or Coke vs. Pepsi. There is plenty of room in the atheist blogosphere for more than one blog network.

Here’s a link to the Patheos Atheist channel. Ignore the jerks, and check it out.

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The Patheos Atheist Channel is Not the Enemy

13 thoughts on “The Patheos Atheist Channel is Not the Enemy

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    As the Australian pop singer Ben Lee once sang: “We’re all in this together” ☺

    It is strange that some commenters around FtB are turning this into an Us vs. Them thing, as if some cosmic vortex will open up and swallow us if we visit Patheos & FtB during the same internet session.

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    The Patheos non-atheist channels host some of the most virulent theocrats and reactionaries on the Internet. The whole of the site is a mixed bag, to put it mildly.

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    I agree with Andrew T @2. There are some excellent bloggers at Patheos, Libby Anne and Adam Lee come immediately to mind. There’s some pretty horrible ones as well, like JT Eberhardt and James Croft (sorry, Greta, but I dislike his attemptsg to remake atheism into churches sans gods). Most of the Patheos blogs are somewhere in the middle. My major objection to Patheos has to do with threaded posts which I hate with a passion.

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    Patheos is also the home of my favorite Christian Blogger, Fred Clark at Slacktivist. I may disagree with Fred about the existence of God or the historicity of Jesus, but he’s spot on most of the social justice issues most of us share, in fact he’s a great resource for anyone who wants to show how un-scriptural many conservative religious ideas are.

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    Seconding Greta’s recommendation of Alix Jules – I haven’t read much of his blog, but I have heard him several times on Dogma Debate. An excellent way to learn about a completely different perspective to my own.

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    Tried to access the blogs you linked to, but all 404’d. I can get to the Patheos home page, open the Atheist channel, but there it stops: I cannot access any individual blog or article. All end in a 404 message.

    I’ll try again later.

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    Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the matter with Patheos?

    Nothing really.

    There’s a bit of hubbub right now because Ed is moving to Patheos.

    Patheos as a site includes sections on various religions, but also has an atheist section. Some people don’t like Patheos because it happens to include a religion section. Some people don’t like the Patheos atheist section because they have disagreements with some of the atheist bloggers in that section.

    But as Greta says, none of that is relevant to how we consider those blogs on a case-by-case basis.

    It’s a little bit like how some people who don’t like PZ Myers dismiss all of FtB based on the false idea that all of FtB is just an extension of PZ’s autocratic rule. It gives themselves an excuse to dismiss the other bloggers here without engagement. Some people are making the same error regarding Patheos atheist and it’s just as foolish when misapplied there also.

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    @Daniel Schealler
    thank you kindly. I have seen “The Friendly Atheist” and “What Would JT Do” since, and I have enjoyed their content. I truly do not care where Ed Brayton publishes his comments; I relish reading them anywhere. As for PZ, while his methods might be disliked, Pharyngula is his and his alone, and I think the quality of his posts make up for it.

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    I read some FtB bloggers. I read some Patheos bloggers. (Greta, I wish you’d also mentioned Neil Carter’s Godless in Dixie; he often writes on the difficulties of raising believing children, and does so with gentle insight.

    I don’t actually give the fabled fat rat’s patootie about where somebody blogs, as long as the link works reliably. I read bloggers with whom I agree, and some with whom I disagree (meaningful disagreement, I won’t waste my time on batshit crazy). There’s only so much time. I do read Ed Brayton pretty regularly, wherever he posts, and I hope the change works for him.

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