This piece was originally published on AlterNet.
Other than the ones I talked about already, I mean?
I recently wrote a piece, Five Stupid, Unfair and Sexist Things Expected of Men, about how sexism damages men as well as women, and how men as well as women get pressured to fit into narrow, rigid, impossibly self-contradictory gender roles. I argued that people who care about feminism ought to care about how sexist gender roles hurt men: partly because we’re human beings, with a sense of justice and compassion for one another regardless of gender, and partly because the cause of feminism can only be helped by convincing more men that it’ll be good for them, too.
Many people, including many men, responded positively and passionately to the piece. They saw themselves in the piece all too well. They appreciated having their experience recognized and — dare I say it? — validated. They hoped the conversation would bring these issues into the light, and lighten the burden of these expectations on them and on other men. Of all the complaints I got about the piece, one of the most common was that the five gender roles I picked were just the tip of the iceberg.
So today, I’m following up.
Here are five more ways that men in my life have told me they feel screwed over by sexism: five more rigid, narrow definitions of maleness that men feel pressured to contort themselves into.
In my conversations with men, this particular role came up a lot — and it seemed to hit a particular nerve. Mike got the memo loud and clear: “Earn money, or be independently wealthy. In ‘standard’ society, a woman should be beautiful, and a man should be rich.” As did Michael: “To be a man,” he learned, “you must have money and material possessions,” and he referred to the role of “Mr. Money Bags (hides behind materialism).” Craig agreed: “My parents disapproved of my major choice (German Linguistics) because it didn’t have enough earning potential — especially for a man who has to provide for a large Mormon family. My dad is a doctor, so he chose a good, manly profession, unlike the liberal arts.”
And whatever money men do bring in, it bloody well better be more than the women in their life. Whether they’re rich CEOs or blue-collar Joes or comfy middle-class guys in between, making less money than their wives or girlfriends makes their masculinity suspect at best. Christopher quoted helpful comments from his friends about his life choices: “‘Oh, dude, your girlfriend makes three times what you do? Aww, that sucks.'”
Weird. You’d think that the willingness to sacrifice short-term pleasures for long-term goals would be admired and celebrated — especially in men, who are expected to be the primary long-term breadwinners for their families. And it is admired and celebrated. At the exact same time that it’s being undercut.
Among the men I spoke with, this particular subject inspired both eloquence and passion. Here’s what Kyle said: “If there is one thing to remember about being a ‘man’ or male culture, it’s that it’s hierarchical. Men live in a hierarchical world. It’s all about who’s the top dog, who’s the best, who’s the strongest, etc. Don’t get me wrong — I can be quite competitive myself, and I firmly believe that competition makes people stronger, better, etc. However, I also believe that the male ego is responsible for at least 90% of the wars that have ever been fought in human history (along with religion of course, lol). So do I think men are given narrow expectations? Yes. To win. Winning and being #1 is the definitive aspect of male culture. As George Carlin put it, it’s ‘dick fear.'”
Michael agreed, and defined the male role thusly: “To be a man you must have titles, positions and power.” Mike concurs: “Be a patriarch of some sort. This doesn’t necessarily mean a father of children, it could just as easily mean be the head of a department at work, or the chairman of the board of a non-profit. There’s something about ambition in this one, I think.” And Craig says that, when he was growing up, he wasn’t allowed “to hate sports, competition, violence and hierarchical structures.” Even if you aren’t a winner at these games, you still have to care about them. Stepping off the ladder isn’t an option.
So, unless you’re one of the 2-3% of men at the top, you’re never going to win the game.
But you bloody well better care about it anyway.
If you don’t, your penis might fall off.
And yet, this is a funny one. Because it’s one that men have only a limited degree of control over. Sure, you can work out and buff yourself up to some degree. But if your natural build is small and slight, you’re not going to turn yourself into Vin Diesel no matter how hard you try. It’s deeply weird to have a male gender expectation that’s not only rigid and narrow, but literally unachievable for a large portion of the male population. It’s deeply weird to make men feel like losers for losing a game that’s rigged from the start. It reminds me of what Mike said about height: “Men are supposed to be tall and intimidating — being a short man is akin to not being very manly at all.” What the hell are you supposed to do about that? Take growth hormones? Stretch yourself on the rack?
This one creates an interesting self-fulfilling prophecy. From a young age, boys are commonly expected to tinker with mechanical objects — and they’re taught how to do it, at the side of their dads or older brothers or other men who are tinkering and fixing. And since they’re more likely to be taught how to do it, they’re more likely to know how to do it. And since they’re more likely to know how to do it, they’re the ones people turn to do it. Which reinforces the idea that men are better at it than women… and reinforces the expectation on boys and men that they bloody well better know how to do it if they don’t want people to think they’re sissies.
Like I said in Part One of this piece: Being a man in American culture means taking care of women — sexually and otherwise. (While at the same time not being “pussywhipped” and caring too much what women think of you. Oy.) What makes this expectation more frustrating is that that this sexual caretaking is supposed to be accomplished with a penis, and nothing else. A penis that can get hard at a moment’s notice, and stay hard for as long as needed. If you can get a woman off with your hand or your mouth, with a vibrator or a dildo, with nipple clamps or a whip (for her or for you), with nothing at all but your voice in her ear… well, that’s very nice for you. Yes, foreplay is lovely. Very important. So have you gotten it up yet? No? Pussy.
What we don’t talk about as much is how this assumption trivializes male pleasure. We don’t talk about the pressure it puts on men to “perform” — pressure that, ironically, can make said “performance” more problematic. And we don’t talk as much about the ridiculous limitations it puts on male sexuality. We don’t talk as much about how enjoying full-body sensuality, nipples and ears and toes and hair and the huge range of sexual pleasures available to all human beings, is typically seen as girly. We don’t talk as much about how men who like receiving anal sex are widely assumed to be gay… even if the people they like receiving anal sex from are consistently women. And we don’t talk as much about how this assumption reduces men’s pleasure, their possibilities, their entire sexual beings, to a few inches of erectile tissue between their legs.
We should.
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So is it ridiculous to even be talking about this?
You might be surprised to hear this, but I don’t entirely disagree with this. Largely… but not entirely. I actually think it’s very likely that at least some degree of gender-specific behavior is inborn. After all, it is in most other animals; it would be very surprising indeed if it weren’t in human beings.
But.
And these are some very important Buts.
And in fact, this isn’t just one pair of overlapping bell curves. It’s several. Gender is complex, and gender- differentiated behavior comes in a wide assortment of flavors: a tendency to be competitive, a tendency to be co-operative, physical aggression, verbal communication skills, spatial reasoning, the ability to recognize emotions from facial expressions, making decisions rationally versus intuitively, etc. And again, while on average, women and men’s bell curves peak at different places on all these spectrums, any given man or woman is very likely to score more typically male in some areas, and more typically female in others. (On my own “Male or female brain?” test, I scored male in my spatial relation ability, female in my verbal ability, and neutral on some other scales that I can’t remember now.)
So even if there is a genetic component to gendered behavior — which again, I agree is very likely — that doesn’t mean that there isn’t also a social component as well. There clearly is.
And even if there is a genetic component to gendered behavior, it clearly shows up as averages, overlapping bell curves rather than clearly defined categories. There are clearly large numbers of men, and women, whose natural personalities and abilities fall well outside the gender norms.
And we are all too aware of the intense social pressure on us to fall right back into those norms.
And we’re sick of it.
And we’re bloody well going to speak up about it.
Thanks to Adam, Alan, Andrew, Ben, Other Ben, Chad, Christopher, Craig, Crypt, Damion, Darren, David, Other David, Still Other David, Yet Still Another David, And Yet One More David, Dean, Georges, Glendon, Jacob, James, Other James, Jason, Jeff, Joel, jraoul, Kyle, Lauro, Lenny, Leo, Mark, Other Mark, Michael, Other Michael, Still Other Michael, Rick, Scott, Other Scott, Still Other Scott, Sean, Anonymous, and everyone else I talked with, for their invaluable help with this piece.
Also, have a full head of hair. It’s like the ‘be tall’ one (in that it’s entirely biological), but as soon as your hair starts to thin and recede, it’s game over.
Thank you.
What a great article! Thanks so much for posting.
Different places have different stereotypes to be challenged. When I first moved to the Boston area (I’m a Brit) I was amazed by how many men were embarrassed when we went out for drinks or a meal and I offered to pay for my half. I picked a close friend’s brain about it and he said it was a constant pressure in his life: the feeling that he should be “looking after” women. I was amazed! “How about we all look after each other?” I asked. He laughed, relieved, and said he liked that idea. 😉
Awesome, inspiring, Christ on a cracker
Lana, I agree. Many of the dating rituals that men in the US could feel pressured by, does not really exist in that form in my country either. I was never taught to expect that a man would pay for me if we went out together for example.
Dating is definitely hugely different between cultures. In many parts of Europe dating in the US sense is actually only emerging. It’s a rather unstructured experience.
Structure can actually be really good. A friend of mine moved to Germany. A really handsome guy. He completely failed to find a girlfriend because all the “moves” that are understood in the US were completely misunderstood. He wasn’t familiar that one hangs out and gets to know people casually and that there is no expected protocol, or at least not the one he knew.
But at the same time it’s also less sexist in a a way.
Even the feminism reflects this. Certainly German, French, British feminism is each quite different, not to mention American feminism.
On the inverse I remember a Eurpean au pair coming to the states and having a “lol, I can get free drinks easily here” phase, by essentially farming guys using US bar rituals. I thought it was quite funny.
On male sexuality, I’ll just say this: We like a back rub. We really do.
good article , as always.
Oh, the shit I took when I was a house-husband.
It was none of anyone’s biz, and my support helped the wife’s carreer take off in big ways, but I was still “suspect”.
A little neighbor boy, in his innocence, put it best: “Your house is weird. At all the other houses, the mom cooks, but here the dad cooks.”
“So what are some ways that sexism hurts men?”
I have a feeling that you actually missed the more serious ones. Not that the ones you listed weren’t serious, mind you — it’s just that men are commonly discriminated against in much bigger issues. Two things off the top of my head: sexual assault and domestic violence.
The same behavior that gets a man put behind bars and registered as a sex offender for life — when a woman engages in it… we might say she is coming on a little strong. Consider a typical situation: a girl wants a guy, who doesn’t want her (imagine he has a girlfriend). So she gets alone with him, and starts kissing him… when he tries to push her away, she takes her top off, and approaches him again… How people react to such behavior? Ts-ts-ts, they say, she’s seducing him, that’s not very nice of her! If a guy behaved this way, they’d be all “OMG OMG a rapist, put him in prison!!!” Remember “Broken Flowers”, with Bill Murray? His character visits the home of a former girlfriend, and her teenage daughter (a very well developed young woman) tries to seduce him by casually walking into the living room naked and smiling at him. (He leaves immediately.) The point is, the reaction of the people who see it is the same “Ts-ts-ts, what a shameless young lady”. It is not “Holy shit, she is a juvenile sexual predator, she should be reported asap! And the poor guy needs therapy!”, which would be everyone’s reaction if the genders were reversed, right? A commenter named Steve gave you some very good pointers on this once. He recalled a scene from “Almost Famous”, where a group of sexually assertive teenage girls say “Let’s deflower the boy!”. The virgin 15 year old boy doesn’t really want to have sex with them… but nobody really asks him, and he feels pressured to respond, because he’s male, and men are not supposed to refuse to sex, ever. So they all have their way with him. Again, if the genders were reversed, holy crap, just imagine the huge trouble that a group of teenage boys would be in for doing this to a 15 year old girl! I remember Steve’s other comments on this were also very helpful (see <a href= and here). I think that just the discrimination of men in sexual issues deserves its own blog post.
But there’s more — domestic violence. Men are never supposed to hit women. Ever. Even in self defense, even to stand up to an abuser. Never. And of course, women use this a lot! It’s sure a whole lot easier to beat someone who doesn’t beat you back! Dear Prudence just answered a letter of such a guy. Read the stream of horror stories in the comments. I see a lot of positive and egalitarian reactions there, but I also see a lot of covert sexism… Note especially Brandy Powell’s story (a woman who was battering her boyfriend, and eventually put in prison for life for killing her next one). I was thinking: if this woman was a man, society would probably prevent this tragedy. Brandy describes situations where friends were witnesses of her constant abuse, but they never reported her. Until one day, no one was there to stop her from beating a guy to death… Like, wow, who could have seen that coming?
Ola, even the original advise in that Dear Prudence column is a little off. If you swapped the male and female roles in that story, I don’t see that anyone would ever offer the advise that was given.
I think the worst was the person who talked about how he taught critical thinking, and agreed with a student that domestic abuse by women wasn’t a problem because it is rare and men are stronger than women. It sounds like this person needs to go back to class, because he failed on multiple counts. He needs to learn that averages don’t apply to individuals, but populations, and also to learn that there are reasons other than the act being rare to explain the rarity of reporting.
This does remind me of major thing that Greta has missed in regards to unfair things expected of men. Men are expected to never ask for help, no matter how badly they need it, no matter how badly they want it, no matter how much pain they’re suffering because of the lack of it. If you can’t handle a situation on your own, it is a strike against your masculinity. They exhibits itself in the often joked about tendency to avoid asking for directions, jumping into a project without reading the instructions, the above mentioned domestic abuse situations, and even the avoidance of medical assistance when in great pain. This one is positively caustic, and I don’t know of any way of calculating how much damage it has done. And while women often ridicule this aspect of male culture, it’s positively good natured compared to what is said of those who reject (i.e. they’re weak, needy, indecisive, helpless).
Wow! Fantastic post. I have struggled with the traditional roles of being a man vs my passion and what would make me happy. Thank you for putting this down so clearly.
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Yes, some of us men are forever,even having worked-out a lot, remain weaklings! I don’t know other weaklings myself. I now exercise for health and endurance and feel better for that. All that feeling inadequate physically and otherwise took its toll.
Greta, thanks!
Should people try bisexuality?
Sarah Hrdy has some insightful things to say about innate biological differences. Here’s a bit from Mother Nature:
“âWhat magnifies small differences into major divisions of labor? The simplest answer is that people do, by following the path of least resistance. As Ed Wilson put it, âAt birth the twig is already bent a little bit.â Where natural inclinations lead depends on how much effort is expended bending them back. Among humans, conscious effort can minimize preexisting differences. More often, small initial differences in responsiveness are exaggerated by life experiences and then blown out of all proportion by cultural customs and norms.
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So the mother is more sensitive to infant needs than the father. So what? Who cares? And thatâs just the point. The act of caring has its own consequencesâhabits of mind and emotion. When we get down to the âunderlying mysteriesâ that George Eliot called attention to, the causes of difference can be just that simpleâŠ.Just because the mother is more readily galvanized to respond to infant demands does not mean that fathers are not able to do so, or that they cannot become adequate caretakers, âgood enoughâ caretakers, or that baby primates cannot form primary attachments to a male. Rather, a seemingly insignificant difference in thresholds for responding to infant cues gradually, insidiously, step by step, without invoking a single other cause, produces a marked division of labor by sex.