Comments on: Being a Former POW is No Excuse https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/ Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:54:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: Anonymous https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1302 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:54:57 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1302 Beautiful, just beautifulHe should be "crucified" by the media and the people for the things he is doing to the honor of veterans.

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By: wolfsilveroak https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1303 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:36:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1303 Tell your father, Semper Fi for me. This is one Vet who will not vote for McCain. Never planned to.

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By: Cujo359 https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1304 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:33:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1304 anonymous @ 11:01AMYes, that’s something about FMJ that rang true for me. Again, my experiences were vicarious, but that’s what it sounded like – sleep deprivation, being yelled at by people to do seemingly senseless things as fast as one can, having to have one’s locker just so (or else…), etc.

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By: Sol Smith https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1305 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:39:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1305 This really is something that I’ve been thinking a lot about lately. I understand that he has given a lot to this country, and I really respect that. I even think that in 2000, he might have been a very good person to put in control–using hindsight. But just because he gave to this country, doesn’t mean that we need to take his shit now. He gave, he served, and for all I know, he served his congressional constituents very well, but that doesn’t give him a get out of jail free card. I think it would be wonderful if every POW got to have 7 houses in their old age. But they don’t. Maybe this country has given him enough back already.

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By: lienne https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1306 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:07:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1306 Thank you for making this post. Reading it has made my brain a (very slightly) better place.

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By: Anonymous https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1307 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:01:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1307 My father has also described Full Metal Jacket as “the only accurate movie about Vietnam.” For him, I think it was the insanity of the boot camp experience, and what it does to your disposition, that made it so real. Thanks for posting this; I know both men and women who have been POWs, and not a single one of them invokes it as a shield for all behavior with the ferocity of John McCain.

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By: Cobalt https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1308 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:12:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1308 @ Cujo: My dad actually had us watch Full Metal Jacket because he didn’t want us to join the military (he’s a Coastie). To be fair, it worked. Well, that and being in a military family kinda makes you lose your will to inflict that status on anyone else in the future. =/Anyway! This is being linked around like whoa. Take heart! And let the bludgeoning commence!

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By: Cujo359 https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1309 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:59:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1309 I’m curious to know why your father thought that Full Metal Jacket was the most accurate description of Vietnam.I’ve read a couple of memoirs of Vietnam, and have been told quite a few stories over the years. Platoon struck me as being the most like those stories. Actually, it’s a bit like someone melded all the most memorable parts of those stories into a single plot. As a result, it’s probably not like any one person’s Vietnam.FMJ, on the other hand, struck me as another of Kubrick’s surreal movies that told the deeper truth about Vietnam – which is that it was basically crazy. Kinda like How I Stopped Worrying …, but with more location shots. I never took at as anything else.Anyway, you’re right. Your father and most Vietnam vets are a stark contrast to McCain. Most don’t talk about it much. Some don’t want to talk about it at all, at least with people who aren’t war veterans. It’s reached the point where McCain talks about it way too much.

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By: Blake Stacey https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1310 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:51:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1310 Tangentially topical: another data point on shoddy reporting.

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By: Dana Hunter https://the-orbit.net/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1311 Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:35:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaesverdad/2008/08/25/being-a-former-pow-is-no-excuse/#comment-1311 Thank you all for the kind compliments!@Atheist Chaplain: I’m highlighting that article tonight. It is, shall we say… pointed. ;-)@Cobalt (and this goes for the rest of you, too): spread it as far and as wide as you want. Bludgeon whomever needs bludgeoning with it. And when they’re dizzy from this, I’ll have more for ye to finish them off with. The POW schtick – it stops.And if I have to roll out more Terry Pratchett quotes to help emphasize the point, well… I’ve only just begun to paraphrase Pratchett. (Glad you approve, Jakob!)

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