Comments on: I Don't Demand Respect Because I'm Upset; I Demand Respect Because I Deserve It https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/ Care and responsibility. Sun, 02 Mar 2014 22:46:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: Even if I had t… | I'm Such an AFROholic https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8347 Sun, 02 Mar 2014 22:46:52 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8347 […] –I Don’t Demand Respect Because I’m Upset; I Demand Respect Because I Deserve It » Brute Reason […]

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By: The Reading List, 3/2/2014 » Almost Diamonds https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8346 Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:20:06 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8346 […] I Don’t Demand Respect Because I’m Upset; I Demand Respect Because I Deserve It–”At some point in my life, probably in college, I decided that I was going to (mostly; when I’m not too scared to speak up; when I can think of the words to say, etc.) stop taking shit from people.” […]

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By: Shari https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8345 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:22:26 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8345 Miri, thanks for the post. I am extremely sensitive about a some things……..and really bloody insensitive about the rest of the world, in general. Mostly because I don’t ‘get that far’ out of my own stresses and brain and what not to consider what’s happening with others at a deeper level. Yes, that means i can spend a fair amount of time pulling my foot out my mouth and working out why my words were hurtful. I appreciate your post because it’s a lesson in a smarter, faster way to patch up misunderstandings – and avoid a few!! There’s a good book out there called (i think) “The Art of the Humble Question” and I think it touches on some of what you have written.

Appreciate your work, as always.

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By: Ysanne https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8344 Sat, 22 Feb 2014 13:53:41 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8344 In reply to Sophia, Michelin-starred General of the First Mediterranean Iron Chef Batallion.

Axxyaan has it right: It’s not about wanting to talk anyone out of their feelings. It’s about wanting to go through what just happened, to compare perspectives and figure out why one of the parties ended up feeling disrespected. (I’m assuming here that it wasn’t caused deliberately.)
The way most of the blog post is worded, it’s an implicit assumption that the offended-feeling party has a vastly superior understanding of the interaction than the unintentionally offending one; so much so that even trying to understand and work out the issue right then and there is considered insolent: “it’s your fault, own up to your obvious insensitive mistake and apologise straight away.”
This is not the way I see my relationship with people I consider friends. We both get the benefit of the doubt and deserve respect; their feelings and perspective in a given situation are just valid as mine.

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By: Miri, Professional Fun-Ruiner https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8343 Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:19:02 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8343 In reply to Lisa DoLittle.

It is really sad that you felt the need to leave this comment. Have a nice day.

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By: Lisa DoLittle https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8342 Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:48:00 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8342 “Even if I had the thinnest skin in the world, so thin that it is literally an atom in thickness, which is biologically impossible because cells are bigger than that”…..sentences like these sum up the banality of these tiresome blogs. You should really get outdoors and take up a healthy exercise or sport. Reading a bit of this (it is much too grating to read it all the way through) it is just about me me me me and me. You say you want people to respect you, not to belittle, patronize, disrespect or insult you, and then you proceed to bitch about everyone else. I suspect they are just humoring you.

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By: Miri, Professional Fun-Ruiner https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8341 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:06:21 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8341 In reply to rapiddominance.

I’m really glad you feel welcome here. Best of luck with your recovery. 🙂

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By: rapiddominance https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8340 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:55:56 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8340 In reply to Miri, Professional Fun-Ruiner.

Thanks for the response and especially for answering my question. I agree the apology should come first (along with compliance) and that its best to ask my proposed question LATER.

Miri, I think this is the first time I’ve ever commented on your blog but I’ve read a number of your posts. I’m a christian who suffers with severe depression and I want to tell you that you not only write interesting, enjoyable pieces but you also show a kind heart as well. Thank you very much for that.

Scott

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By: PurplesShade https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8339 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:21:36 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8339 In reply to Dunc.

Most people who use them, yes, but I for one appreciate her generosity in this. Not everyone is great at communicating at all times.
Her kindness is useful for anyone whose anxiety interferes with their communication skills.

Using myself as an example. My brain sometimes makes assumptions, without my active knowledge or consent, I have to actively fight against acting on those assumptions even if I sometimes can’t stop them being made. I mostly succeed, but not always.

The relevant part works thusly: If I’ve done something wrong and need to be called out of it, then my brain assumes the person I’ve wrong must be mad at me. I will speak as though that person *is* mad, presumptive terminologies the works, because that’s what I perceive as true.
This is not an attempt at belittlement, but a reaction based on terror-addled brain presuming a poor emotional state of the other person, a terrifying prospect.
It is irrational, but it’s not always a conscious assumption, sometimes it feels like an observation.
So I acknowledge it as if it were an observation of reality, and speak as if it were making sure I were recognizing someones expressed hurt so as to validate them.

I don’t know why my brain does that, but I do know I’ve met other anxiety sufferers who have very similar problems.
For people like me it’s not a tactic for anything, it’s a misinterpretation of reality which messes up our communication. If we make a mistake that puts us in the hot seat then we might make another mistake because of the hot seat we’re in. It is the cycle of anxiety.
I’m grateful there is leeway for my mistakes.

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By: Miri, Professional Fun-Ruiner https://the-orbit.net/brutereason/2014/02/17/i-dont-demand-respect-because-im-upset-i-demand-respect-because-i-deserve-it/#comment-8338 Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:57:23 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/brutereason/?p=3453#comment-8338 In reply to rapiddominance.

Even my psychotherapist, educated as he is, doesn’t LABEL my emotions. He steers me gently in directions I need to go to understand how I feel and why.

Yeah, especially in cognitive-behavioral therapy, the idea is to try to help people label their own emotions (for the purpose of figuring out how their thoughts help cause them). If someone is having a lot of trouble, we might say something like, “It sounds to me like you might be feeling angry about this. What do you think?” Not just like, “You’re angry.” That’s presumptuous.

But what if the person (me, for example) responds, “What is it about what I did that you found disrespectufl?”

That would be appropriate following an apology and a while later, perhaps the next day, when neither person’s emotions are still running high. If you ask it immediately, it sort of sounds like that “just stop being upset” response I talked about. And the person who’s line you’ve crossed probably won’t be willing to give you a calm, reasoned explanation at the moment.

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