This is part of my coverage of the Secular Social Justice Conference this past January in Houston. I raised money to get me to the conference to report out because conferences like these cover topics that are rarely talked about in the movement. I also raised money to get Josiah Mannion to the conference to take photos. You can see his full conference photoset. If you appreciate the work we do, we’re also raising money cover a portion of our costs to do the same for the Women in Secularism conference in September. You’ll find a donation button at the end of this post.
For the last session of the first day, we all came back together in the main auditorium for a very large panel discussion on race and intersectionality.
What’s Race Got to Do With It? Racial Politics and Intersectionality in the Atheist Movement:
Frank Anderson, Black Skeptics Chicago
Georgina Capetillo, Secular Common Ground
Alix Jules, Dallas Coalition of Reason
Sincere Kirabo, American Atheists
Jimmie Luthuli, Secular Sistahs
Juhem Navarro-Rivera
Vic Wang, Humanists of Houston
Moderator: Daniel Myatt, BSLA
This is the panel I think should be required viewing for anyone in the movement who talks about “echo chambers” and “political correctness” in the movement. I have never seen a panel this wide-ranging or willing to explore possibilities at another secular movement conference. When was the last time you sat through an argument on the pros and cons of revolution? You can watch the session for yourself at the end of this post. If you do, however, you’re going to forever know “SJWs can’t abide disagreement with their ideas” for the lie it is.
This panel is asked "What's Race Got to Do With It?" #SSJCON continues… pic.twitter.com/G2eJY6zO20
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Frank Anderson of Black Skeptics Chicago cites Asa Philip Randolph (past Humanist of the Year) as inspiration for social justice #SSJCon
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
Racial Politics and Intersectionality in the Atheist Movement panel at #SSJCon . pic.twitter.com/fn2a1Dqtaf
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon A. Phillip Randolph has come up a number of times. Important figure. https://t.co/nZvTZ9zLlo
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
@Georgicape "The last thing I want is for white people to learn about intersectionality from a white person." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"Every time there's a conference, people look at whether there are women and POC–because of naming and shaming." @Georgicape #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Panel 3: What's Race Got To Do With IT? Racial Politics And Intersectionality In The Atheists Movement.#SSJCon pic.twitter.com/x1mHwfjYHX
— BlackFreethinkers_MN (@BLF_MN) January 30, 2016
Vic Wang of @HumnistsOfHtown on similarities/differences btw secular movement + LGBTQ movement #SSJCon pic.twitter.com/qlhxkfmdUL
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "tokenization is a step forward" A sign to keep pushing, that's at least the slightest momentum.
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
Tokenization is not enough – don't think you're diverse and welcoming b/c you have 1 Latino, 1 black person, etc. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Final panel of day: Racial Politics and Intersectionality in Atheist Movement #SSJCon @SSJCon pic.twitter.com/xT4oK8wH9O
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
People do the right thing because they're pressured to by other people around them. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Black Lives Matter is a good start toward intersectional leaders. Too much of current black activism is "hotep". –Jimmie Luthuli #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
"I'm not the first Puerto Rican ever who realized God doesn't exist." Histories can get erased, we need to reclaim. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
The Civil Rights movement had several influential thinkers who weren't believers. They paved the way for the religious leaders. #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "I'm not a new thing: we haven't always been Catholic" Institutions have a way of…instituting themselves. Erase contradictions.
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "We don't know our history: we need to rescue our history" – re: erasure of secular civil rights activists
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
.@juhemnr on Latino atheists: "We're here but we're not new; there's history there." #SSJCon #humanism pic.twitter.com/jaObr2gNcQ
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
Black Lives Matter explicitly inclusive of LGBT people and issues. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
There's no progress without confrontation. @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
"There's no progress without confrontation." @SinKirabo on #BlackLivesMatter movement @ssjcon #SSJCon pic.twitter.com/Apu4dVYKc7
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo "There is no such thing a single issue stance because we don't leave single-issue lives." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "if we are going to be about social progress, then we need to be aggressive/tenacious. If we aren't: marginalization and erasure."
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo says that Black Lives Matters' aggressiveness is an inspiration for increasing intersectionality in Atheism. #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"@SinKirabo referenced Audre Lorde, so this panel has now been officially validated." #SSJCon
— BibleName (@BibleName) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "interject your voice, or it will be invisible"
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
@alix331 Alix Jules: people criticize #blacklivesmatter when they aren't invisible – when they are inconvenient. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
#BlackLivesMatter: The #Racist Element of the #Atheist Community #SSJCON https://t.co/ux8qGrVm7U pic.twitter.com/ChdfAxtyQB
— Ashton P. Woods (@AshtonPWoods) January 30, 2016
"Who thinks Black Lives Matter needs to adopt a milder approach?" [silence, laughter] #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
People say they don't like the tactics of BLM, but they've been effective. We can't afford to ignore them. —@alix331 #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Saying BLM tactics are bad is telling us we need to stop inconveniencing people and go back to being invisible. —@alix331 #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Why aren't there more radical intersectional leaders? There are – but system makes it hard for them to be heard. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
"Donald Trump is very intersectional… in how he pisses people off." #SSJCon
— Heina Dadabhoy (@heinousdealings) January 30, 2016
"Our political structure doesn't allow for real, progressive leaders of social justice." @juhemnr #SSJCon
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
@juhemnr "Our two party system doesn't allow for real social justice candidates." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon Ntl leaders poised to address intersectionality?: Bernie(?),Obama(?),Intersectionality is decentralized(?). Interesting thoughts.
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
We don't have intersectional candidates because people with those identities and outlooks aren't allowed to advance. —@Georgicape #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Frank Anderson "Leadership has to begin here, with us." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "Is Bernie another guy just saying nice things to try to get elected?"
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
Panel question: in light of all that has happened in the last year, what obligation is there to educate on intersectionality? #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
@Georgicape "There are amazing white allies out there. We need them. They're the majority." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "Nothing is going to be given to us. Educate, step on toes, interrupt." There's a reason these tactics are used: they work.
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
@Georgicape "My very existence as a woman of color steps on people's toes." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"If you embrace humanistic principles, you must speak out for the oppressed." Vic Wang @HumnistsOfHtown #SSJCon #humanism
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
We need to speak about racial injustice as humanists not just in response to current events. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
We aren't taking control of the atheist movement. We're creating/part of a separate movement within the larger one. —@alix331 #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
@alix331 "We can't wrestle control away from the Atheist movement because it's a separate movement. It's not [humanists'] movement." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"It's not the job of the oppressed people to end their oppression." #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
@jluthuli "It's not the victim that is responsible for ending their own oppression." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon Hate not being acceptable is progress, even if the hateful aren't changed. They can't spread if they are shamed out of expressing.
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
@jluthuli "Supporting allies of any movement that checks others that share their privilege is effective." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"We already know that there's no god. How is that going to improve someone's life?" #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
Jimmie Luthuli of @SecularSistah on privilege #SSJCon #humanism #atheism pic.twitter.com/yEjMbP5ZHz
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
"Secular movement runs on inertia." Focuses on same old issues, not issues marginalized people care about. #SSJCon @juhemnr
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@juhemnr "As a Latino I have access to things that others like me don't have. I should use that privilege to help." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"How do we get more people like you here?"
"Well, you have a lot of men…PhDs…. Oh! You mean Latinos!"
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon The onus of social progress should be on the oppressors to not be shitheads. But can they be depended on to actually do that?
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon pic.twitter.com/dSgVVWOQte
— Anthony Pinn (@anthony_pinn) January 30, 2016
Can we say that it's good to educate people about privilege/ marginalization, without saying it's an obligation? #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@jluthuli "People addressing their privilege needs to become the norm." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon There is no such thing as "one size fits all" Justice.
— Anthony Pinn (@anthony_pinn) January 30, 2016
"Are we obligated to teach people about intersectionality and racism when some of us are tired of doing so?" #SSJCon #humanism
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
People get burned out on doing education. #SSJCon @SinKirabo
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
.@SinKirabo: Educating is great, but sometimes you burn out. This stuff is hard. #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo "It's an act of intellectual malpractice to see injustice and say 'well I'm not gonna say anything about that." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Can we reframe question as "what's effective" rather than "what's your duty"? @Georgicape #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
"I'll educate anyone who is willing to listen." Frank Anderson @BlackSkepticsCh #SSJCon #humanism pic.twitter.com/Acy7U2D3Kg
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
@SSJCon @Georgicape What's race got do with it panel: People in the dominant culture will not relinquish power unless they're forced #ssjcon
— Sikivu Hutchinson (@sikivuhutch) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon priveleige just seems to mean "being treated humanely and fairly".We should work towards a world where everyone has these priveleges
— Pro patria mori (@GenMthinker) January 30, 2016
@alix331 I'm weary of being too dismissive of allies. We tell them to educate themselves but sometimes they don't know where to go." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Sometimes there are so many social justice resources, ppl don't know where to begin. Education can = pointing ppl to those. @alix331 #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon a space for any and all should exist in the secularist movement.Like this:"hey. Want to support secular government? Join the club!"
— Pro patria mori (@GenMthinker) January 30, 2016
@HumnistsOfHtown's Vic Wang "Even when it seems like someone is beyond educating about oppression, sometimes it is worth it. #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Vic Wang and @alix331 making a case for at least making the initial effort to educate as more effective than you might think. #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
White attendees of @SSJCon: See @got_privilege, #SURJ, Robin Di'Angelo's #WhiteFragility, @everydayfem for anti-racist tools. #SSJCon
— Diane B. (@swirlina) January 30, 2016
Panel question: "what is the responsibility of oppressed people, if any." #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon Injustice is complex, layered, and systemic. Fighting it requires something more than monolithic and simplistic strategies.
— Anthony Pinn (@anthony_pinn) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo: I'm trying to articulate these issues in a way so that people who don't experience them can understand. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
"I'm trying to articulate these issues so people can see them through my eyes." @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@ssj @SinKirabo What's Race Got do with It #ssjcon panel: "Toxic masculinity and male privilege must be addressed by male allies"
— Sikivu Hutchinson (@sikivuhutch) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo "It's not about what is my responsibility, its about what can I do to get better?" #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
"So that their awareness, their consciousness can be raised by my pain, my experiences." @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— BibleName (@BibleName) January 30, 2016
We need marginalized perspectives because we can't experience their lives directly. Need to give them/us a platform. —@SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Good panel on race @SSJCon, but it feels a bit "safe." Speak yo truth. We got this! #SSJCon
— Diane B. (@swirlina) January 30, 2016
It can be dangerous to educate people. Self care can mean stepping back. @Georgicape #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@HumnistsOfHtown's Vic Wang "Do not try to hold back those of you who are fighting for your group's rights." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Wang: The least a marginalized person can do is not get in the way of those willing to to advocate against marginalization. #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
"If you are interested in liberation, it becomes your obligation to free yourself." Alix Jules #ssjcon @SSJCon pic.twitter.com/2uTlgWQtRA
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
@HumnistsOfHtown's Vic Wang " Too often people erroneously use humanism and atheism interchangeably." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Some people call themselves humanists who have zero humanist values, actually antagonistic to them. #SSJCon Vic Wang @HumnistsOfHtown
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Not all atheists are humanists. #SSJCon
— American Humanist (@americnhumanist) January 30, 2016
Panel question: where do we go from here? #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
Where do we go from here? One thing: go back into our own communities. @alix331 #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@alix331 "We need to go back and try to influence change where we live; in our own communities." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Get atheism integrated into intersectionality. @alix331 #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@alix331 argue, protest, boycott, do everything we can to make a stand. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
Need to keep fighting if we don't want to lose ground. @alix331 #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Get more involved in politics in a real, down to earth sense, especially local politics. @juhemnr #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Where to go from here? Run for office. Not just for atheist visibility, but to propose real policies and try to win. @juhemnr #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Run for office, not to get the votes of the three atheists in the county, but to actually get people to vote for you! —@juhemnr #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Get involved in voting rights, disenfranchisement, voter registration. @juhemnr #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
"We have enough ambulance chasers going after 10 Commandments monuments." @juhemnr #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
We have enough ambulance chasers going after tenth commandment monuments & not enough interested in improving the lives of people#SSJCon
— BlackFreethinkers_MN (@BLF_MN) January 30, 2016
Work on diversity in local communities. No silver bullet for that, keep trying lots of things. Vic Wang of @HumnistsOfHtown #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Vic Wang of @HumnistsOfHtown: if you want to grow and diversify your group, you need to embrace social justice causes. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
Diversity appeals to younger demographic, most non religious demographic. Vic Wang of @HumnistsOfHtown #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "It helps everybody when you embrace diversity"
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
Millennials embrace social justice and diversity. Your organization can/should too. –Vic Wang #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Don't be afraid to officially embrace social justice. Have codes of conduct, don't be afraid to enforce! Vic Wang @HumnistsOfHtown #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Have a code of conduct and enforce it. Seen white supremacist rhetoric at events without consequences. –Vic Wang #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Too many leaders afraid to pull the trigger and have consequences for people making spaces unwelcome or even being overtly bigoted. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "make it clear that hate/bigotry aren't welcome, and enforce that. Don't be afraid to take a stand on your code of conduct."
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
Support our causes with facts only. Police our news sources. Stick to making claims on evidence. —@jluthuli #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo: put these issues on the front burner even after going home. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
To advance social justice, stay constant, don't put on back burner. @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@SinKirabo "How else do you learn about privilege unless you shut up and listen?" #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Listen to marginalized people about their experience, let them have the platform, hear what's important to them. @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Grant people a platform. Listen to marginalized people. Sit down sometimes. —@SinKirabo #SSJCon And boost their words!
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Follow marginalized people on social media, read their books. Lots of atheist books other than God Is Not Great. @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@HumnistsOfHtown's Vic Wang "Yes there is discrimination against Atheists, but racial discrimination is worse." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
Knock it off with "atheists are most hated minority." Only true in narrow areas. In US, not massive economics oppression/violence. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
Atheist marginalization is real and a problem, but overemphasizing it makes us look insensitive to other forms of oppression. –Wang #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
"Atheists are most hated and oppressed minority" makes us look wildly out of touch. Vic Wang @HumnistsOfHtown #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
@juhemnr "If I'm shopping and being followed by store employees, it's not because I'm an Atheist. It's because of my skin color." #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
@Georgicape "Support black-owned and poc-owned businesses!" #SSJCON
— Darrin Johnson (@DJ_Blues) January 30, 2016
For centuries, people have been taught that black people are a threat. Racism deeply institutionalized. @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
#SSJCon "We need an overhaul of our history…[current prejudices] come from years of institutions teaching lies"
— Gordon Maples (@Misantropey) January 30, 2016
Q & A is not the time for you to talk over & take up the time/space of the #POC SPEAKING #SSJCon https://t.co/wq0TrB6dGv
— Ms. Amanda Rosa (@namarose2013) January 30, 2016
Discussing whether to collaborate with religious institutions. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
My own thought: If doing coalition with religious groups, remember many atheists have been traumatized by religion. Don't pressure. #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
"If you call yourself a revolutionary and [Sanders] doesn't win, what are you willing to do to bring about that change?" —@alix331 #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Audience member: "we are already being killed every day." Bloodshed is happening now. #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
Look y'all we're already being killed #SSJCon
— Ms. Amanda Rosa (@namarose2013) January 30, 2016
Audience member: "when is enough enough?" #SSJCon
— Noelle George (@silveroak77) January 30, 2016
We talking burning the whole thing/system to the ground & how many more lives need to be killed for revolution #SSJCon
— Ms. Amanda Rosa (@namarose2013) January 30, 2016
There is so much left to do before we talk about armed revolution, before we reach for that patriarchal "solution". —@jluthuli #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
How do you reform a system that wasn't made for us in the first place? @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
"There is no bandage big enough to make these problems go away." @SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Greta Christina (@GretaChristina) January 30, 2016
The answer is revolution because the system wasn't made for us, but it isn't a solution people are ready to accept. —@SinKirabo #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Passionate discussion at #ssjcon. What does a real revolution look like? What group(s) do we aim to overthrow? What replaces it?
— Debbie Goddard (@DebGod) January 30, 2016
We can talk about revolution, but we haven't even started to talk about state building. —@juhemnr #SSJCon
— Stephanie Zvan (@szvan) January 30, 2016
Seriously. That’s where we left the panel. Do we tear it all down and rebuild–something? So if you’re interested in hearing real, substantial disagreement among advocates for social justice, watch the panel.
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