Comments on: Dawkins Tries Again https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/ Politics. Sex. Science. Art. You know, the good stuff. Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:48:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: Nathanael https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29121 Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:48:23 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29121 FWIW, the list of evidence here leaves out quite a *lot* of the other witnesses who have described sexual assault or harassment by Shermer. Including Dallas Haugh.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2014/09/12/timeline-of-harassment-and-sexual-assault-allegations-against-michael-shermer/

Even if Dawkins wants to discount the anonymous allegations — and apparently there are a *minimum of five*, probably more — Dallas Haugh was perfectly willing to give *his* name when accusing Shermer of rape.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/13/do-you-know-the-person-behind-the-tumblr-creative-pooping-who-goes-by-the-name-dallas-haugh/comment-page-1/#comment-671302

Seriously, does Dawkins not realize that this is overwhelming evidence? AFAIK, nobody’s reported Dawkins actually harassing or assaulting women himself — why is he defending Schemer?

Maybe the evidence that Shermer rapes men as well as women might wake Dawkins up to reality. :sigh:

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By: NSes https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29118 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:49:37 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29118 This would be a good time to recall all those studies that show sober men specifically target drunk-seeming women to be sexually agressive towards in bars. Sexual predators like Shermer know what they are doing. Their behavior is common and deliberate.

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By: John Horstman https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29116 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:02:35 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29116 @Sili #20:

It’s strange (only not at all, of course) that noöne has yet attacked James Randi for spreading malicious rumours and gossip. Or being old and senile.

Dana also has slayed that beast since your comment.

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By: rq, fish https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29115 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:11:40 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29115 Also, for James Randi, Dana Hunter has a post on him.

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By: Ichthyic https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29114 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:12:13 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29114

It’s strange (only not at all, of course) that noöne has yet attacked James Randi for spreading malicious rumours and gossip. Or being old and senile.

Shermer thread, pharyngula.

“boys will be boys”

no, he did not go unnoticed.

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By: Ichthyic https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29113 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:08:28 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29113

don’t accuse anyone of a crime if you can’t remember what happened

Favorited 606 times by Glenn Quagmire.

giggity giggity goo.

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By: screechymonkey https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29112 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:57:59 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29112 smhll@12:

I tend to think our biggest obstacle is the proportion of people that think buying a woman five drinks (or four) and then “seizing the opportunity” is normal. Anyone who has ever done this, even decades ago, is going to fight like hell against the idea that this is terrible criminal behavior.

I don’t usually think of myself as being naive, but I am surprised by how firmly so many people want to defend Shermer against the suggestion that he did anything remotely wrong in a moral sense, let alone a legal one. I had assumed that a lot of people were resisting the use of the term rape, and were uncomfortable with the idea of criminal prosecutions in such situations, but that there was at least a baseline agreement that such behavior is shitty.

I mean, even in the “old days” before people talked about date rape or acquaintance rape, wasn’t there still the notion that “taking advantage” was wrong and something only sleazy guys did?

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By: njudha https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29111 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:21:24 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29111 It’s clearly all a conspiracy aimed at slandering this brave man /jk

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By: maddog1129 https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29110 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:54:14 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29110 Somehow I had previously missed the part where Dawkins was working behind the scenes to get people to stop saying things about Michael Shermer. Wow.

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By: Shannon Drury https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2014/09/13/dawkins-tries-again/#comment-29109 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:28:09 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=7265#comment-29109 Stephanie, I offer you my sincere thanks for following this story for so long and in such detail. It’s exhausting and disheartening and INFURIATING for me to read, so it must have been ten times worse to write & research.

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