A commenter at Ophelia’s asked, with regard to the threat on Twitter, “Has anyone defended this e.g. at the Slymepit or on these blogs?” To answer that question, have this. The Storify is here, if the embed doesn’t work for you.
Then there’s the slime pit. This part was particularly ugly, as they were busy picking over Pamela Gay’s recent post.
Svan proving once again that if you look for something to be offended by, you’ll probably find it. Comments are the usual circlejerk…
And Zvan, yeah. Troll comments on twitter by two people transmute into “the Slymepit sez” (negative tweets/comments ones only, of course). If we play that game, they’re all Rape Apologists among other things.
Critical thinking at it’s finest! “If they don’t like us, it’s not because we’re fucking horrible; it’s because they’re friends with the enemy!”
I heard about this yesterday. What has me scratching my head is this – if she was searching for tweets regarding her husband’s photography, exactly how did those tweets by Jack Rayner and LazySavant show? I did a quick Twitter search for “Ben Zvan” and then “#benzvan” and *neither* of those tweets showed up. It only works if she’s searching for “Zvan”. But even more curious is that she says she has (I assume) LazySavant blocked so his tweet would not have shown up in a search. Unless, of course, she decided to log out of her account and do a search. Which then indicates to me she was actually looking for shit being said about her.
Cry me a fucking river, SVanity.
And this is what happens when you let your guard down:
On behalf of Lazy Savant and I, allow me to apologize profusely for giving that mean-spirited poo-bag ephemeral purpose.
Nobody said it yet? Well, excuse me then:
MYYYYYKEEEEERUUUUU! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!
But could someone please tell Swazan that if she wants someone to offend her, I could do that for free, in large ammounts and being as mean spirited as she would possibly want? Give me five minutes for inspiration.
I used to play DotA on the Battle.net (no moderation or punishment for trashtalking outside ladder playing, yay!), so I got a lot of experience in insults about sexuality, virginity (and the lack of, specifically the oral and anal ones), fatness, nationality, penile size (male AND female penises), and mom issues.
Simply by existing and not kowtowing on both knees to her, you offend her. No real effort needed.
Gee, Mr. Southern, you’re so special! I wish one day I could grow to be just like you!”
Tapir [Noting that Caine offered me sympathy]:
I hope Zvan doesn’t have a pace-maker.
Or that she took her rabies shot. Caine & Her Merry Band of Rats probably aren’t very healthy to be around.
So that’s the whole thing she’s harassing you for (remember storifying is harassment)? A joke about wearing a svzn-suit? Of course, why would anyone want to wear it – wouldn’t you be afraid of what you’d catch?
Stefunny… [animated emoticon playing a violin]
Oh, excellent point. I will alert Twitter to her storifying harassment
I wish they would cut out the pretense.
All of these fucks are in a state of constantly ego-searching for anything related to them. If they can’t find what they want with google, they will come to the Pitt and search here.
It’s a shame their fans will never figure this shit out. It’s like Barack Obama visiting the Fox News discussion forums every single damn day and then posting what he finds on his twatter. “Look at all of the horribleness I receive, just for being black!” Yeah, and I’m sure the ACA, drone strikes, patriot act, gitmo, etc had nothing to do with it? And of course, if he did find some actual racism, he could extrapolate that to represent every single person who doesn’t like him. 😀
feralandproud [who added the link to my post at the pit]:
I just recently started following the online atheist/skeptic community(about 4 months ago). After literally like a week of reading blogs and following links I figured this shit out. If the average FtB “fan” doesn’t at least check out the ‘pit once in a while, I’ll eat my goddamn hat. Willful ignorance is no excuse. They’re exactly like schoolyard bullies. They can dish it out, but the second it’s returned they’re all, “Teacher! Teacher!” That applies to the wannabe celebutards and their fans. I’m so happy I found this place.
Has Lazy_Savant ever posted here? Or is Janine doing her regular schtick of hallucinating and lying at the same time?
Nobody is registered with that user name. Not that it made a difference. Any person who is mildly associated is enough to make it all about the whole. We spoof their actual comments (with source). Nerd is being made fun of for the things he writes, Myers for what he writes and so on. And they are lampooned for traits they consistently express. Plus some general points that emerge about them as a culture. They, however, collectively hate everyone based on what one or five people write. The women faction, curiously, is always about feeling victimized. Their men are always ragey and angry. In SJW land, the gender roles are very traditional.
From ekwhite’s take on Lazy_Savant and Mykeru’s SZ twitter exchange I’m guessing English is not ekwhite’s 1st, 2nd or 3rd language
Shoot. All they have to do is link to Clarke’s “only joking” post, or say they were playing Cards Against Humanity. It’s supposed to be offensive and is a get out of jail free card.
What @Lazy_Savant tweeted was pretty dumb. Not because it was a death threat – obviously it wasn’t, only the intentional drama whores at FtB etc. pretend it is – but because it plays right into the infinitely dishonest victim narrative these dingbats flaunt. Zvan just took the lead in the persecution points game these pathetic bumblers are always playing. She’s waddling around hoisting that tweet like a fucking trophy.
That was my immediate thought. I knew full well she would hunt that down “Looking for reactions to my brother’s photography” my arse. She name-searched herself.
Much as I do love this community, there’s a definite downside in perpetually supplying the other team with ammunition.
Trying to imagine Lazy_Savant [Anyone want to figure out what this is supposed to be a picture of?]
and if svan really feels that was a serious threat against her, I absolutely encourage her to report it to the authorities. As one does when one gets a serious threat against one’s person or family.
I have, actually, been advised that documenting the threats is exactly what they would do, and that’s already done. But it’s always nice to get law enforcement advice from an IT guy.
Would anyone here put it past that attention whore Svan to fake a death threat against herself?
Beautiful imagery, as always Gumby! 😀 [applauding emoticon]
So is this the “Death Threat”?
[copy of tweet]
Does not look as if it was actually tweeted to the black swan (to me anyway).
It’s what I said on twitter. Zvan is a troll. Don’t feed the fucking trolls. I understand it’s fun sometimes. Really I do. But there’s a definite cost in terms of our collective sanity when you do that. It’s simply not worth it.
There are a couple of Storifies re @LazySavant’s joke that bombed.
Here, @ool0n does chide @LazySavant, albeit pretty mildly: http://storify.com/elevatorgate/conversation-with-lazysavant-ool0n-and-aratina
Another Storify I saw earlier added in a comment that @LazySavant & @ool0n often banter around on twitter; I haven’t checked that out for veracity, but it does look like it just in the past day or two.
As @LazySavant has subsequently pointed out, he was make reference to a movie – the “woman suit” scenario is from Silence of the Lambs.
Anyway, the last tweet in the Storify linked above is @aratina advising that if @LazySavant just apologizes to @szvan and deletes the tweet, everything’ll be fine.
Surprise surprise, @LazySavant has been added to the Block Bot, level 2: http://storify.com/The_Block_Bot/38959986
Later there’s a joking exchange with @RichSandersen, @oolon, @hyperdeath128k, @saramayhew (whose account is still suspended), & one other person in which Rich S jokes that Aratina wants Sara Mayhew dead (related to someone trying to delete Sara Mayhew’s wikipedia page, whether that’s true or also a joke); @aratina has retweeted it:
(The exchange went on w/ someone asking whether Rich S was using hyperbole or his usual, “being full of shit”, with Aratina assuring it was the latter.)
It’s like a soap opera. So hard to follow who’s talking to, versus shunning, who – and why. And whether or not it’s okay to make jokes about women & death – turns out that may depend who the joke is about, and/or what the joke-maker’s intent is assumed to be. Quelle surprise.
I think a worst crime is that it wasn’t even funny. I’m ok with lots of bullshit as long as it’s funny.
Agree with that. I got the reference instantly, but FFS that movie is like twenty years old. The lambs stopped screaming a long time ago.
I haven’t been following the Pit too closely lately – has it been established that @Lazy_Savant is even a Pitter? Maybe I’m biased but my instincts say no. Of course, the baboons will insist he is either way, but I was just curious.
He almost certainly wasn’t a pitter since pitters are immediately placed at level 2 of the blockbot.
@Lazy_Savant was, at least before he made that Silenc of the Lambs joke, followed by aratina cage on twitter.
I think he has only now been added to the blockbot – level 2.
But if it was a real threat of murder (rather than a lame joke – that Svan spotted and immediately grabbed to use as pity fodder) you would expect him to be on level one, wouldn’t you?
I noticed that as well. Given the tendency for the baboons to go, well, apeshit over insults like these and pretend they are imminent death threats, it’s amazing he wasn’t placed at Level 1 no matter what. Zvan must be pissed at Oolio – How come other people’s death threats are placed at Level One and I only rate a Level Two? That’s not worth nearly as many persecution points!!! 😀
For all the claims that Lazy Savant’s tweet was a death threat, it appears that the most shocked (shocked, I say!) of them knew from the outset that it was just a ‘Silence of the Lambs’ joke.
Funnily enough this makes it worse for Josh SpokesGay – since “SOTL was viciously transphobic”.
Cheer up, Zvan, you’re thin!
At least: your skin.
Isn’t that a Silence of the Lambs reference? Which I take to be a dig made about Svan being fat, because the female victims were fat in order to have plenty of skin for skinning.
Also, who is Lazy Savant?
Last, since it becomes clear that he’s been blocked by Svan, et.al., how is it that they saw the tweet he made to one person without their obsessively following everything he says/does on twitter? At what point do they realize we can all see how obsessed they are with their drama-blogging lifestyle? And that all but the most dense will eventually catch-on and move away from the drama-filled A+ movement?
I’ve never seen such a group of idiots with so little shame in my life. They go out of their way to be insulted. To find those insults. To fill themselves, on a daily basis, with reinforcements to their perceived victim-hood like a dog eating its vomit.
It is obvious to everyone that it’s a fat joke about Svan.
But obsessively trawling twitter to dredge up fat jokes about yourself doesn’t quite carry the victim cred that can be generated by a single death threat, which is why they are playing up that rather tenuous angle of the tweet.
Making a distasteful Silence of the Lambs’s reference = bad, awful, death threat.
Making a distasteful Cards Against Humanity reference = good fun.
Roger that. So I’ll do a CAH reference in regards to Svan, right now! The rules:
1) I’ll use the cards from the actual game (from http://www.cardsagainsthumanity.com/pdf … inGame.pdf)
2) I’ll chose a black card with a feminine reference on it, and change it “Stephania Svan”. The remainder text will not be modified.
3) I’ll then choose 10 (ten) white cards with the answers and you guys choose the best one. Again, no changing on the text from the actual game cards.
sheStephany Svan’s born with it. Maybe it’s _______________”
White card 1:
White card 2:
White card 3:
White card 4:
White card 5:
White card 6:
White card 7:
White card 8:
“A brain tumor.”
White card 9:
White card 10:
“Being fat and stupid.”
I hope she doesn’t mind, because, according to BRAYTON (2013):
It’s OK. It’s a quote from Cards Against Humanity. The whole point is to be horrible.
Have a nice day, Stephie.
Hey, congratulations. You’ve just taken that something play-horrible and turned it into real-horrible by using trying to turn it into a weapon against another human being, once again demonstrating that the very concept of consent is beyond you. Go, you!
In addition, since when is a random Twitter user who doesn’t even post on the ‘Pit “one of the leaders of that group”? The ‘Pit doesn’t have and doesn’t need leaders.
This is why I find concern trolling in the movement (especially the Pit) to be so pointless when it comes to dealing with Skepchick/FTB criticisms made by us or others. The only appropriate course of actoin for us is to ‘shut up’ and/or ‘go die in a fire’ depending on the asshole-level of the FTB/Skepchick poster.
A guy makes a fat joke and the ‘ever searching for drama’ FTB crowd turns it into a death threat and the ‘Pit is linked. Despite the fact that the ‘Pit had nothing to do with it and it’s a FAT JOKE.
Although most of the people concerned are block-botted, don’t forget that the usual lickspittles patrol twitter.
I felt so bad for Stephanie getting that threat that felt I needed to comment on the “How was your day?” thread.
I expect it will make it out of moderation any minute now, but if not, here it is:
November 8, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Stephanie: What a horrible thing for that monster to say. You must be terrified.
Several months ago I had a criminal threat made to me over the internet that emphasized it WOULD be carried out!
It was so worrisome that I have since been diagnosed with PTSD.
7 February 2013 at 3:24 pm (UTC -6)
You are not Paul.
And this is THUNDERDOME!!
*Breaks two liquor bottles and brandishes the jagged necks.*
I WILL cut you abear, you stupid fucking troll.
I am very sorry for your trauma, whatever your name is. I hope that PZ took immediate steps when you brought this to his attention to make sure no broken bottles would actually be allowed in the Thunderdome, his open comment thread.
And that’s where things stand at the moment. So, that should answer that question.