Comments on: A Crisis of Professionalism https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/ Politics. Sex. Science. Art. You know, the good stuff. Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:20:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: What I Have to Say About That » Almost Diamonds https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23978 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:20:01 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23978 […] Ah, professionalism. […]

]]> By: Martha https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23977 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:41:58 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23977 This is a brilliant analysis of the situation. It provides a framework for the stages of how organizations grow or fail to thrive in much the same way that Rebecca Goldstein’s talk pulled together the rise of philosophy and the great religions as different responses to much the same set of circumstances. I’m still disappointed by many of the responses I see from the defenders of the status quo, but I’m much less baffled by them now.

]]> By: Tony! The Virtual Queer Shoop https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23976 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:13:59 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23976 Stephanie:
Perhaps he’s been better in other threads _here_, but from his performance in a thread about racism in the U.S., it is painfully clear that his privilege has resulted ina staggering lack of awareness about certain social issues (perhaps he is not so blind to sexism as he is to racism, but I rather doubt it)

]]> By: tuibguy https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23975 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:55:48 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23975 The thought occured to me that this is very similar to the process that happens in businesses as they grow, if they started out enterprenerially and move to more formal organizations. The people who started the businesses were more keyed on product development, production and marketing and while they had plans for growth didn’t necessarily have the skills to direct and maintain larger organizations once they had achieved their initial goals.

In that, I don’t know much about Lindsay beyond his talk at WiS2, but if that is truly representative of his leadership style then I really don’t think that he is the right person in place as the CEO of CFI and I will be watching with interest, too. Sudden spurts of growth in membership are very difficult to handle administratively and I hope that the leadership groups of the secular organizations make personnel decisions that will make good business sense, ie, encourage rather than discourage new membership among the currently pissed off.

]]> By: Stephanie Zvan https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23974 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:50:04 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23974 In reply to tigtog.

I looked at his comment history before replying the first time. He’s been better than this everywhere else he’s commented, and it isn’t just a different subject matter either. Everyone has an off night, I guess.

]]> By: tigtog https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23973 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 05:53:27 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23973 David Wilford appears to have a habit of arriving to threadjack discussions into being all about justifying one tangential point in the OP to him via JAQ-ing off. Is this a habit which anyone should encourage by engaging with him as anything other than a chewtoy?

]]> By: Eristae https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23972 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 04:43:29 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23972

I’m not sure what you think the crisis is that faces SF&F publishing, but I’m fairly certain it’s not a matter of professionalism, any more than it is in publishing in general.

Erm, you don’t think that out of control sexism is unprofessional?

]]> By: David Wilford https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23971 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 03:50:20 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23971 It’s nothing more than wondering why you made a comment about a crisis in SF publishing and where that came from.

]]> By: Stephanie Zvan https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23970 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 03:37:24 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23970 In reply to David Wilford.

Then I think you’ve answered your own objection. Now, why the hell is that the part of this post you think you need to add comments about?!

]]> By: David Wilford https://the-orbit.net/almostdiamonds/2013/06/14/a-crisis-of-professionalism/#comment-23969 Sat, 15 Jun 2013 03:36:23 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/?p=5356#comment-23969 Sure. Minnesota Atheists would still be up and running, the Freedom From Religion Foundation in Madison would still have their home, and so on. It’s not as if freethinkers are a monolithic group.

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