Yesterday, I put up a post urging the CONvergence board to listen to their volunteers regarding something they screwed up during con. Shortly after the post went up, it received a longish, bizarre comment:
I am so sorry to hear about how you were treated, and disappointed to hear what ASSHOLES the convergence organizers are. The fact that they let asshole dudebros sexually harass you without consequence is completely fucking inexcusable. I am so glad that I didn’t get to go this year, and I am damned sure I will never be back to their shitty con again.
I wasn’t sexually harassed, and no one “let” it happen. I mentioned that someone tried to comfort me by telling me I didn’t look my age and put their hand on my shoulder while doing it. It was dumb and sexist. It was out of keeping with con norms. Had I told him to leave me alone and had he done anything other than leaving me alone, I would have had full and nearly instant backup. I’ve praised CONvergence for this plenty. I simply had other things to deal with at that point.
And of course, like typical dudebros, they treat their female staff like shit. Your skills normally earn hundreds of dollars an hour, yet they expect you to work for free! And you were heckling them out on top of your job and the other sucessful organizations you work so hard for. And it is no surprise that they fired their web designer in the middle of the event- they probably just fired her so a man could get credit for all of her hard work.
To the extent this paragraph is remotely coherent, it displays an interesting assumption that the board of CONvergence is all men. It isn’t. It never has been.
While so many of you were at that con, the harassers came out in full force. On PZ’s.blog, somebody posted volumes of verbose sexist bullshit to try to convince people to forgive Bora Z’s sexual harassment. Even worse, another entitled dudebro shit up a thread on Ophelia’s blog. This person posted in graphic detail about his disgusting personal sexual proclivities that involve humiliating women. It was completely inappropriate, and of somebody had said similar things on a workplace v they would be fired for sexual harassment. The saddest thing is that he is a bogey that I used to respect and be a fan of.
Oh, look. Someone thinks they’re clever by talking about Richard Carrier without mentioning him by name. Presumably they think they’re inviting me to be a hypocrite by condemning the behavior until I know who it is. How cute. For the record, I haven’t read the comments, but I’m pretty big on letting people opt out of knowing the details of your sex life, blog colleagues included.
Yhe best way to deal with the convergence Assholes is for you to beat them. You will have your own conference in Minneapolis next month-make it so good that it puts their con to shame. The best part is that you control things, so you can make sure that all of the hard-working staff ( including yourself) Get paid what they deserve. Make it so good that Secular Women Work 2 will be THE premiere conference in Minneapolis next year.
I can’t wIt til next month!
Gee, someone knows that I’m one of the organizers of Secular Women Work, and they really support it and are totes attending even though they know so little about it that they think it’s in competition with a science fiction and fantasy convention where ridiculous numbers of my friends volunteer. Yeah. Also, I’m not making any money from it. Kickstarter proceeds were turned over to Minnesota Atheists, and I have to submit for reimbursement for anything I spend.
The comment was so ridiculously out of touch and over the top that it lasted maybe all of two minutes on the post. It’s just possible it took that long from the time the email came in until I verified that the single prior comment from this person was every bit as ridiculous, if shorter.
Then I waited. While doing that, I discovered that the same person had left a couple of other comments on Jason’s blog. Same IP. Similar patterns. Over-the-top “support” against harassment, assumption that FtB bloggers are in this for the money, complete lack of understanding of actual positions anyone takes, trying to see whether we’ll tolerate behavior from someone if they write here. The polite but confused comment Jason left in reply to one of them says it all, really.
There’s probably more, given that some of those patterns have repeated elsewhere in comments on FtB, but I figured I’d waited long enough by then. I was right. From the slimepit:
Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn’t even want to employ as a volunteer. There is c also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
Gosh. That comment was made, noticed, and archived by a pitter in the two minutes it was public? (Within one minute based on the archive timestamp.) Yeah, no. Also, they archived the post-commenting URL instead of the post’s URL.
It would seem that the slimepitters have run so thoroughly out of things to complain about that they’re now manufacturing them so they have something to show each other. The poor, poor dears.
There’s also this, from the same person, after other people had figured out the comment was gone:
I wonder if Stephanie Zvan stays up all night, unable to sleep, shaking with rage, anxiously wondering if every single comment on her low traffic blog is a slymepit troll?
Nah. I expect your bullshit comments, but they’re not that hard to spot, even if we sometimes give them the benefit of the doubt. You don’t read for comprehension, and you don’t understand even the basics of the issues we’re talking about. As always, your dedication to hanging out with people who tell you what I have to say instead of just reading it mucks with your perceptions until they are simply absurd. It’s just your buddies who can’t tell the difference between commenters in good faith and people like you.
So go play somewhere else, kidlets, and maybe try to get out more. Thanks for this, though:
Zvan is far more organized and deliberate in her machinations and she doesn’t succumb to rage, ego or the need for others’ approval. She’s scary.
It’s always nice to be recognized as effective, even if someone doesn’t know the word for it.