I have no idea whether Warren Jeffs believed that his god was telling him that he had some kind of heavenly mandate to marry women and girls without any concern for their desires. I don’t know whether he thought raping his underage “spiritual wives” was desired by this god. It’s neither unheard of to believe in very convenient gods nor to invent gods to get you what you want.
Truth be told, I don’t care. Jeffs is in a nice little secular prison now where he’ll stay for the rest of his life. The rest, at least in his case, is academic.
Jeffs, however, doesn’t think so, and he’s on a campaign to convince others that he knows God’s will on this matter. A couple of months ago, Jeff’s sponsored ads in newspapers around the country hawking a revelation.
In fact, that appears to be the case. Jeffs, who presumably didn’t sell as much revelation as he’d have liked, is now having his/Christ’s/whoever’s word mailed to officials in rural counties. They’ve been turning up in Minnesota:
The bundles of letters and booklets began arriving a couple months ago to many county commissioners in the region.
Some of the envelopes contained a two-page document; others had 43-page booklets; one held large bound books that were 149 pages long.
The materials contain proclamations and“revelations that appear to warn government entities around the world of “whirlwind judgments” and certain doom if Jeffs’ message isn’t heeded.
Jeffs, who is president of a group that has been called the “radical” polygamous sect of the Mormon Church, also sends the strong message in the long rambling literature that he should be released from jail.
Terribly convenient, that.
There’s nothing special about Minnesota in this regard, though. The letters and booklets are also being received in South Dakota:
So far, Fischbach and the other commission members have received 20 of these letters….all containing prophecies from Jeffs. “It just seemed like it was just…he was just trying to scare us. Wanted to warn the people of bad things happening I guess. I’m not real sure what his end motive was.”
In one writing, Jeffs says the U-S will soon be gripped by famine and then invaded by two foreign powers. Jeffs says God will punish the U-S for legalizing abortion with a series of earthquakes and windstorms. Jeffs says God will destroy the city of Cincinnati as a warning to turn from sin. And repeatedly, Jeffs says people in positions of power…such as Fischbach…reek in blood because they have turned away from God’s will. “It’s pretty insulting yes but I just take it with a grain of salt I guess. Kind of just throwing it away.”
But not all of these letters from Jeffs are being thrown away. Some are being held by the Brown County States Attorney; so far, no crime has been committed but these letters are so inflammatory that the locals here want to hold onto them, just in case. “This is….this is crazy stuff.”
Oops. I don’t think that was the reaction Jeffs was going for. It’s hardly going to get him out of jail. Well, whether he believes the stuff he’s printing or not, Jeffs has a ways to go before he manages to convince people who weren’t raised within the strict confines of his faith that he’s got a line to God.
Jeffs firmly believes that he is a “prophet, seer, and revelator” and God talks directly to him.
Just as an aside, I’ve noticed that when people claim that God talks to them, God has exactly the same opinions and prejudices as his mouthpiece.
Do Warren’s “followers” really listen to him any more?
If Cincinnati is destroyed can he be arrested as an admitted terrorist associate and send burly men in stealthy helicopters after his god?
No it’s all good, I checked with God, this guys the real deal.
How’s he find time to write all that in between masturbating 15 times a day??
I don’t think he’s any stranger than he has been. He’s doing anything he can to make some sort of, um, plea? cry? interaction with the outside world?
He’s a footnote in the annals of crazy.
Maybe he wants to be moved to a mental hospital instead of prison?
Having never been to Cincinnati myself, I couldn’t say whether this would be a loss or not. Thoughts?
Doesn’t the FBI have a tape of him admitting he doesn’t talk to God? They sure do.
Presumably, God started talking to him after this video was made.
Talk to your invisible friend when you are a child, that’s cute.
Talk to your invisible friend when you are an adult, that’s a mental illness.
@ Tis’ Himself, Comment # 1
Xenophanes, C. 500 BC
“But if cattle and horses and lions had hands
or could paint with their hands and create works such as men do,
horses like horses and cattle like cattle
also would depict the gods’ shapes and make their bodies
of such a sort as the form they themselves have.”
Sounds almost like one of those stock market advice scams. Instead of sending ‘it will go up/it will go down’ letters, he’s sending a wide range of prophesies to different people. Same idea though – the marks aren’t aware of the other letters, so may be convinced by his “foresight.”
Would it be out of bounds, and egregiously unkind, to wish that Warren Jeffs might have a chance of personally experiencing some of what those “spiritual wives” went through being passed around as sexual party favors?
Oh yeah, I’ve been getting those too. They went straight into the circular file.
Maybe he really meant Columbus
The man speaks the truth of God. If he sounds strange to you, or incoherent, it’s because it is being filtered through strange and incoherent minds, and the caustic rigors of prison and what they can put a man through. John the Beloved Apostle was boiled in boiling oil, Peter, Paul, and Christ Himself crucified. But God Himself truly informs us about the foolish and the peculiar:
1. “The days of visitation and recompence are come. Israel (and the whole world) shall know it. The Prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred” (Hosea 9:7).
2. “But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and the weak to confound the things which are mighty. The base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are, that no flesh should glory in His presence” (I Cor. 1:27-29).
3. “God shall rise up and do His strange work, and bring to pass His strange act ” (Isaiah 28:21).
4. “I have written great things of my law (Revelations to the Prophet), but they were counted as a strange thing” (Hosea 8:12).
5. “The time is past…when we wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness and lusts…wherein they think it strange that we run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you” (I Peter 4:3-4).
6. “If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God… Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you. But rejoice inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy” (id. 4:11-13).
7. “…that God and our Savior…might redeem (or purge) us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people” (Titus 2:13-14).
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The man is also a convicted child rapist. His actions speak a whole lot louder than his words.