Science and Fiction–Writers Respond #1

Back in November, Peggy Kolm and I started soliciting input from science fiction writers and science bloggers about the relationship between science and science fiction for our session at ScienceOnline09. We got an amazing response. Thank you to everyone who took the time to answer.

Everyone who responded is listed on the wiki page for the session (if not, please let us know and we’ll fix it), but that’s a lot of information, so over the next week or so, Peggy and I will be summarizing and highlighting some of the answers. Today, I’m looking at the answers to our first question for science fiction writers:

Why are you writing science fiction in particular? What does the science add?

There were almost as many distinct answers to this question as there were people who answered it, but a few themes did emerge.

1. History with the Medium

I have always loved science fiction from the first time I saw Star Trek to the first real sf novel I read (Philip Jose Farmer’s A Private Cosmos). I read everything science fiction I could get my hands on, and watched every TV and movie as well. I had decided by the time I was eleven that I wanted to be a science fiction writer. Writing is a compulsion, and it’s time intensive with small chances for financial success, so you’d better just spend your time writing what you love best.
Mike Brotherton

I write and I have a strong interest in the sciences and I’ve read science fiction all my life. Given this, what else can you expect from me?
Sean Craven @ Renaissance Oaf

My SF reading began with Asimov and Arthur C Clarke, both of whom placed a great deal of importance on the science in their work. I guess it was natural that when I started to write, science fiction was my first choice.
Simon Haynes @ Spacejock News

2. Asking the Important Questions

…it’s the only genre big enough to wonder where we’re headed and what we’re doing to ourselves as a species. In fact, any story that shoots for that goal, that explores the impact of science on flesh, becomes a work of science fiction pretty much by definition.
Peter Watts

I’m writing science fiction because it’s the only literature that addresses the issue of our long-term survival (or not) as a species. No other branch of writing out there gives an author a canvas broad enough to grapple with the question of Where All This Is Going—in fact, I’d go so far as to say that most contemporary mainstream “literature” could care less about anything that’s occurring outside the angst-ridden local coffeeshop where all the MFAs hang out (and I guess this is the part where you ask me how I really feel).
David J. Williams @ The Mirrored Heavens

Science fiction allows us to bring the weight of real knowledge to bear on the human condition. Took me a good twenty minutes to get around to admitting that… Sounds pretentious as hell, doesn’t it? But it’s true. Most fiction springs from situations that are entirely human — SF is a wonderful way to deal with the fact that humans are a singular phenomenon in a much wider universe. And the more science we’ve got, the more it affects the human condition.
–Sean Craven

3. Scope for Imagination

For me, I think the science brings the story that important aspect of strange. It feels damn good to be overwhelmed by a book with /everything/ in it, but I find it hard to even come closer to some of the trippier things.
JesterJoker @ Sa Souvraya Niende Misain Ye

For me writing science fiction is an escape from the mundane affairs of everyday and a glimpse into a future; a chance to imagine what might be, whether it is scary or a paradise, and the opportunity to add my distinct and different voice to those that have already imagined a future, in order to tell others what I feel could happen.
Robert Evans @ SciFiWriter

Science is like a huge, ever-changing toolkit or framework. There’s just so much incredible stuff that you can never run out of ideas or possibilities.
–Simon Haynes

And at the end of the day there are some speculative questions that are just plain interesting — my most recent SF piece deals with the idea that humans aren’t made for rational thought — and that if given access to hardcore rationality they might not reach the decisions that are healthiest. That kind of “Huh, what if?” thought process is really important to me.
–Sean Craven

4. Added Realism

…I can and do try to make my fantasy as rigorous as possible and I very much approach creating worlds and magic systems from the point of view of someone who wants an internally consistent and theoretically robust system. My studies and work in science and science education have made me a much better writer of fantasy.
Kelly McCullough @ Wyrdsmiths

Perhaps what science adds, when I make an effort to really use it (and I guess I use science all the time in science fiction, but when I talk about really using it I mean actually going out of my own little box to find new concepts to work with or trying to portray a better grasp of something I don’t know a lot about), is a sense of reality. The idea that this story I’m writing could actually happen. That’s important to science fiction I think: that the science make the stories and imagined futures seem real enough for the reader to actually consider the possibilities. The science makes the fiction stronger.
Shaun Duke @ The World in the Satin Bag

Science provides the premise and the plot tools to throw characters into the realm of “other” or “unknown”, which is a wonderful way to study human nature. Science fiction, says Robert J. Sawyer, is about ideas that mean something to a society and a people. It is also about how we react and function with the challenges of the unknown. Science grounds the reader in reality while the writer takes them on a fictive journey. It is a little like doing a dry-run to prepare oneself for possibilities. Science fiction often turns into science fact.
Nina Munteanu @ The Alien Next Door

For me, science adds reality to a story, adding to the writer’s authority and the reader’s suspension of disbelief which is critical to the success of a story. Plus it’s completely fascinating! I mean, you can figure out a fascinating magic system, but it isn’t real. How relativity works is totally fascinating too, and the fact that it is also real add
s a dimension fantasy can never have.
–Mike Brotherton

5. Sharing the Science

Writing to me at least is for my own satisfaction first and a very strong motivation to share the gained knowledge however meager that may be to fellow beings who need that knowledge. Sf writing serves to satiate my innermost desire.
Arvind Mishra @ Science Fiction in India

I write SF because I am a scientist and science (particularly environmental science) is both familiar to me and fascinates me. I write this because it is one of my passions and I totally believe that a writer should write about something they are passionate about.
–Nina Munteanu

6. Not About Science

In fact, most SF authors read History far more than science. Indeed, history — and its possible extensions in time or other universes — is far more often a topic of interest than any specific point of science. SF should have been called Speculative History.
David Brin

As to the science: it’s critical for me, but nonetheless it’s perhaps not as central as it is for many SF writers. My main focus is on the politics/geopolitics, and I’m interested in the science insofar as that creates parameters that shape/constrain the decisions of leaders at various levels of the military-industrial complex. That said, SF is all about the corruption (dilution?) of technology’s promise, so the science is by definition high in the mix. . . .
–David J. Williams

7. Science in the Way

This is part of the reason I naturally go toward fantasy; I don’t think I know half enough to create a decently bizarre SF story.
–JesterJoker

Many of the areas that I find most interesting in terms of story have reached a point where I don’t find much that is written in them genuinely scientifically plausible. I’m not at all sold on the singularity. I find the idea of faster than light travel ever more implausible. Ditto serious extra-solar system travel. I still like aliens, but I don’t see us interacting with them anytime soon, not physically at least. I’ve never bought time travel as a science trope, though I love magical time travel. Psionics? Nope. Etc.
–Kelly McCullough

Personally, I combine a lot of these elements when I’m writing. I’ve read SF most of my life, so the conventions and vocabulary of the genre are something that come easily to me. I love the sense of discovery and a lot of the really geeky details of science. Writing something that lets me share that is just plain fun.

On the other hand, there are many ways in which what I write doesn’t have to be science fiction at all. I could talk about colonial economics and rebellion and the intersection of cultures in a historical context just as well. But if I do that, it would be very easy to get bogged down in the ongoing debates over a particular set of events. It would also be far too easy for readers to think that this is all in the past. Setting my story on another world avoids the problem of too much specificity and reminds everyone that history can repeat.

Again, a big thank you to all the writers who answered. Coming up on Wednesday:

What is your relationship to science? Have you studied or worked in it, or do you just find it cool? Do you have a favorite field?

Science and Fiction–Writers Respond #1
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Go. Read.

Tired. Headachy. Blegh.

Luckily, others are up to the task of being entertaining and thought provoking where I am not. (Did I mention blegh?)

You’re reading Greg’s Congo Memoirs, right? Funny, thought-provoking, alien and universal stories, these are. Good stuff.

For another great set of posts, try Juniper. She just took a good hard look back at someone who probably saved her life but unintentionally hurt her doing it. Find out what it all has to do with being a scientist.

JLK is also telling stories. Hers is about how she ended up as an egg donor and what the process was like. Very cool.

Doug just has a question: “Why do kids always throw up in the middle of the night?” In his case, the answer involves CSI.

PalMD has some questions too, but his are a little more serious. Definitely worth some thought.

Monica has a new blog, part of reminding herself that her feminism isn’t incidental. I’m looking forward to more.

And finally, if you’re in New York, here’s an event for next weekend that might interest you.

REQUIREMENTS FOR PARTICIPATION:

1) Willing to take pants off on subway
2) Able to keep a straight face about it

**THIS IS A PARTICIPATORY EVENT. DO NOT SHOW UP UNLESS YOU PLAN TO TAKE YOUR PANTS OFF.**

Go. Read.

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Atheists Talk–Michael Newdow

Do They Know Who She Is?

My husband has been browsing Sociological Images lately. A couple of days ago, I heard a familiar voice and turned around to watch a music video with him. It was Amanda Palmer of the Dresden Dolls, and I was really curious why Sociological Images was interested in the video. It’s pretty straightforward piece of cabaret imagery, except for the addition of a bunch of footballers. Kind of fun and exactly what I’d expect from her.

Leeds United

Turns out, the problem wasn’t with the video. The problem is that Palmer’s record label wanted to remove or alter the images of her belly in the video.

Um, she has a belly? Sure….

Luckily, she responded like, well, like Amanda Palmer.

to which i reply: where have you been for the last five years?
do you have any idea who i am, what band i’ve been in, what kind of music i write, who my fans are….who didn’t send you the memo that i’m not britney spears? i’m not TRYING to look hungry. i’m trying to look HOT. there’s a difference.

Seriously, dudes, have you even listened to the song that got the Dresden Dolls all the radio play? This is not party pop just because it has a good melody.

Coin Operated Boy


can you extract me from my plastic fantasy

And then there’s the stuff that no major radio station is going to touch.

Lonesome Organist Rapes Page Turner


I joke about trash ’cause it takes class to be enlightened

Once again, who did they think they were dealing with? Did they think she’d flutter her lashes in confusion and acquiesce? Did they she’d be so embarrassed by the whole thing she’d stay silent about it?

Yeah, right. She asked them to drop her, told the world, and started a rebellyon.

I love Amanda Palmer.

Do They Know Who She Is?

100% Artificial

First up, Greg has up his long-awaited post about human behavior and the naturalistic fallacy. Go read. Plenty of dishonesty to argue with in the comments, too.

Done? Okay, onward.

I went to a New Year’s party last night (like you do), hosted by my friend Doug and his wife. Doug teaches fencing in the Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA):

The SCA is an international organization dedicated to researching and re-creating the arts and skills of pre-17th-century Europe. Our “Known World” consists of 19 kingdoms, with over 30,000 members residing in countries around the world. Members, dressed in clothing of the Middle Ages and Renaissance, attend events which feature tournaments, royal courts, feasts, dancing, various classes & workshops, and more.

SCA is an immersive experience for many of the people who participate, a distinct subculture that combines a love of elements of the past with other, more modern geekery. One of my favorite observations of the evening was that someone had to go buy a new computer immediately when her old one died because it was the end of a reporting period and she had to consolidate all the information on anachronistic pursuits that people were sending her.

My husband and I were among the small minority of guests who don’t belong to SCA, making us an excellent audience for some well-worn stories and observations about the group. Hmm. Tell me a story? Okay.

One of the other people at the party is a blacksmith and junior high science teacher who told two stories about looking at SCA with outsiders’ eyes. One story was about his receiving a medal for excellence and trying to explain how it felt to a fellow teacher with no SCA affiliation.

“So, you’re a sports coach. Do you belong to any professional organizations?”

“Yes. I belong to X and Y and–“

“Right. Do they hold annual banquets and give awards?”

“Sure.”

“Do they give a Coach of the Year award?”

“Yes.”

“Have you ever won one?”

“Well, no.”

“If you did, and you tried to tell me about it, would I understand why it was so important?”

“No, probably not.”

“Yeah. It’s like that.”

“Oh.”

The other observation he made followed his wife’s story about trying to track down someone who had been showing up at SCA events to tell self-agrandizing stories and claim he’d been awarded status by people in another SCA group. It was an interesting story of small groups and long memories, attempted confrontations and shifting lies.

At the end, her husband talked about trying to explain all this to non-SCA folk.

So they went to him and said, “Look, you can’t pretend to be a knight, because we were pretending to be knights first and we’ve put a lot of work into it, and we say so.”

I laughed, but maybe not for quite the reasons he thought. I suspect that someone more connected to SCA would see some tension between the crafters and the fighters in his very different takes on the two events. Me? I was just reminded that all these social structures that we live with are just that–edifices built on a foundation of mutual agreement.

Despite claims that governments are maintained by force, what regime can withstand a real loss of faith among the governed? If they could, they wouldn’t need to spend so much time demonizing “enemy” states.

All that spam offering to sell you a university degree is only sent because people have agreed that a degree is a valid measure of education. Yet many of the honorary degrees awarded each year are completely insignificant recognitions of the depth of education of the honorees.

Churches, sports leagues, dictionaries, arts critics–they all depend just as much on the recognition of both insiders and outsiders that they have some power to decide how all these things should be done and to recognize who is doing it right. And all of that was impressed on me once again by two stories over a dining room table and a wee glass of absinthe.

Not bad for a night of fun, friends and frivolity.

100% Artificial